Carl Jung: "Freud/Jung Letters" - Quotations

Bleuler would rather fall out with us than with those pipsqueaks. Shame on him! ~Carl Jung, Freud/Jung Letters. Vol 1, Pages 465

It seemed to me that my spookerys struck you as altogether too stupid and perhaps unpleasant because of the Fliess analogy. (Insanity!) ~Carl Jung to Freud, Letters Vol. 1, Page 9.

If there is a "psych-analysis" there must also be a "psychosynthesis" which creates future events according to the same laws. ~Carl Jung to Freud, Letters Vol. 1, Page 10.

That last evening with you has, most happily, freed me inwardly from the oppressive sense of your paternal authority. ~Carl Jung to Freud, Letters Vol. 1, Page 10.

Because of our shortsightedness we fail to recognize the biological services rendered by homosexual seducers. Actually they should be credited with something of the sanctity of monks. ~Carl Jung, Freud/Jung letters Vol. 1, Page 298

It's a crying shame that already with Herodotus prudery puts forth its quaint blossoms; on his own admission he covers up a lot of things "for reasons of decency." Where did the Greeks learn that from so early? ~Carl Jung, Freud/Jung Letters, Vol. 1, Pages 265-268

American culture really is a bottomless abyss; the men have become a flock of sheep and the women play the ravening wolves-within the family circle, of course. ~Carl Jung, Freud/Jung Letters, Vol. 1, Pages 265-268

I have to fight like mad with my students until I have dinned it into them that psychoanalysis is a scientific method and not just guesswork. ~Carl Jung, Freud/Jung Letters, Vol. 1, Pages 265-268

Psychoanalysis is in essence a cure through love. ~Sigmund Freud - letter to Carl Jung (1906)

One day, in retrospect, the years of struggle will strike you as the most beautiful. ~Sigmund Freud Letter to Carl Jung, September 19, 1907.

Then I am plagued by all those poor devils who have "pissed out" excruciating dissertations on me (to speak in the basic language"). ~Carl Jung, Freud/Jung Letters, Pages 424-425

Occultism is another field we shall have to conquer' with the aid of the libido theory, it seems to me. ~Carl Jung, Freud/Jung Letters, Pages 424-425

For a while longer I must intoxicate myself on magic perfumes in order to fathom the secrets that lie hidden in the abysses of the unconscious. ~Carl Jung, Freud/Jung Letters, Pages 424-425

Finally and in confidence: Pfister is now in analysis with Riklin. He has obviously had enough of being roasted over a slow fire by his complexes. ~Carl Jung, Freud/Jung Letters, Pages 424-425

Your last letter upset me. I have read a lot between the lines. I don't doubt that if only I could talk with you we could come to a basic understanding. ~Carl Jung, Freud/Jung Letters, Vol. 1, Pages 138-139

I think very many cases of Dementia praecox are due exclusively to purely psychological conflicts. But besides these there are undoubtedly not a few cases where a physical weakness of some kind precipitates the psychosis. ~Carl Jung, Freud/Jung Letters, Vol. 1, Pages 138-139

Everywhere we are haunted by psyche = substantia, playing on the brain ala piano. The monistic standpoint-psyche = inwardly perceived function-might help to slay this ghost. ~Carl Jung, Freud/Jung Letters, Vol. 1, Pages 138-139

You are quite right: on the whole I was unfair to Stekel's book. But only to you. ~Carl Jung, Freud/Jung Letters, Vol. 1, Pages 169-170

Heartiest thanks for your two excellent articles. “The Dynamics of Transference" is of extraordinary value for the analyst. ~Carl Jung, Freud/Jung Letters, Vol. 1, Page 486

I should like to spend the miserably short holiday I have in lazy solitude; God knows I need it. ~Carl Jung, Freud/Jung Letters, Vol. 1, Pages 163-164

Together with my wife I have tried to unriddle your words, and we have reached surmises which, for the time being at any rate, I would rather keep to myself. ~Carl Jung, Freud/Jung Letters, Vol. 1, Pages 438-441

I can only hope that your embargo on discussion will be lifted during your stay here. ~Carl Jung, Freud/Jung Letters, Vol. 1, Pages 438-441

One Danish doctor flew into a rage with me; I didn't deign to answer him and that made him more furious than ever, for the rabble likes to be answered in kind. ~Carl Jung, Freud/Jung Letters, Vol. 1, Pages 438-441

I, too, have the feeling that this is a time full of marvels, and, if the 'auguries do not deceive us, it may very well be that, thanks to your discoveries, we are on the threshold of something really sensational, which I scarcely know how to describe except with the Gnostic 'concept of (Sophia) an Alexandrian term particularly suited to the reincarnation of ancient wisdom in the shape of psychoanalysis. ~Carl Jung, Freud/Jung Letters, Vol. 1, Pages 438-441

The adventure with "Schottlander" is marvellous; of course the slimy bastard was lying. I hope you roasted, flayed, and impaled the fellow with such genial ferocity that he got a lasting taste for once of the effectiveness of psychoanalysis. ~Carl Jung, Freud/Jung Letters, Vol. 1, Pages 325-326

My mythology swirls about inside me, and now and then various significant bits and pieces are thrown up. ~Carl Jung, Freud/Jung Letters, Vol. 1, Pages 325-326

That it is not of great therapeutic importance to get patients to produce their latent fantasies seems to me a very dubious proposition. ~Carl Jung, Freud/Jung Letters, Vol. 1, Pages 430-431

We have been the victims of "blackmail"! by the newspapers and were publicly reviled although no names were named. I have even consulted a good lawyer with a possible view to bringing a libel action. ." ~Carl Jung, Freud/Jung Letters, Vol. 1, Pages 482-483

This letter is quite vacuous. At the moment I am not giving out any libido, it's all going into my work. " ~Carl Jung, Freud/Jung Letters, Vol. 1, Pages 482-483

The time is most inopportune, as I am overwhelmed with work and grappling with the endless proliferation of mythological fantasies. ~Carl Jung, Freud/Jung Letters, Vol. 1, Pages 482-483

Please forgive me for the delay in answering. The break with Bleuler has not left me unscathed. Once again I underestimated my father complex. ~Carl Jung, Freud/Jung Letters, Vol. 1, Pages 328-331

I am working like a horse and am at present immersed in Iranian archaeology. ~Carl Jung, Freud/Jung Letters, Vol., Pages 355- 356

I think my conjecture that the Miller fantasies" really add up to a redemption mystery can be proved to the hilt. ~Carl Jung, Freud/Jung Letters, Vol., Pages 355- 356

Only the other day a so-called Dem. praec. patient, whom I have almost set on her" feet again, came out with a really grand, hitherto anxiously guarded, moon-fantasy which is a redemption mystery composed entirely of liturgical imagery. ~Carl Jung, Freud/Jung Letters, Vol., Pages 355- 356

I myself am out of the running, for I have no intention of giving up my scientific work for the sake of a professorship. ~Carl Jung, Freud/Jung Letters, Vol. 1, Pages 501-502

Professorships here mean the end of one scientific development. You cannot be an official in a madhouse and a scientist at the same time. ~Carl Jung, Freud/Jung Letters, Vol. 1, Pages 501-502

Nothing can be done directly, since one cannot start a fight with American newspapers. All they are interested in is sensationalism, bribery, and corruption. ~Carl Jung, Freud/Jung Letters, Vol. 1, Pages 501-502

Our ultimate opponents will be the ones who commit the vilest atrocities with Psychoanalysis, as they are even now doing with all the means at their disposal. It's a poor lookout for Psychoanalysis in the hands of these crooks and fools! ~Carl Jung, Freud/Jung Letters, Vol. 1, Pages 501-502

When everything goes smoothly, petrifaction sets in. "I seek salvation not in rigid forms."! ~Carl Jung, Freud/Jung Letters, Vol. 1, Pages 539-540

So if I offer you the unvarnished truth it is meant for your good, even though it may hurt. ~Carl Jung, Freud/Jung Letters, Vol. 1, Pages 539-540

Although you have evidently taken my first secret letter very much to heart or very much amiss, I cannot refrain, while avoiding that topic, from offering you my friendly wishes for the New Year. ~Carl Jung, Freud/Jung Letters, Vol. 1, Pages 539-540

If there is a "psychanalysis" there must also be a "psychosynthesis" which creates future events according to the same laws. ~Carl Jung, Freud/Jung Letters, Vol. 1., Pages 215-217

Bleuler would rather fall out with us than with those pipsqueaks. Shame on him! ~Carl Jung, Freud/Jung Letters. Vol 1, Pages 465






The homosexual resistances in men are simply astounding and open up mind-boggling possibilities. Removal of the moral stigma from homosexuality as a method of contraception is a cause to be
promoted with the utmost energy. ~Carl Jung, Freud/Jung Letters, Vol. I, Page 298.

I . . . have the feeling that this is a time full of marvels, and, if the auguries do not deceive us, it may very well be that . . . we are on the threshold of something really sensational, which I scarcely know how to describe except with the Gnostic concept of [Sophia], an Alexandrian term particularly suited to the reincarnation of ancient wisdom in the shape of ΨA. ~Carl Jung, The Freud/Jung Letters, Page 439

Since your visit I have been tormented by the idea that your relation with my husband is not altogether as it should be, and since it definitely ought not to be like this I want to try to do whatever is in my power. ~Emma Jung to S. Freud, Freud/Jung Letters Pages 452-3.

You were really annoyed by my letter, weren't you? I was too, and now I am cured of my megalomania and am wondering why the devil the unconscious had to make you, of all people, the victim of this madness. ~Emma Jung to S. Freud, Freud/Jung Letters Pages 455-7.

Incidentally, America no longer has the same attraction for him [Carl] as before, and this has taken a stone from my heart. ~Emma Jung to S. Freud, Freud/Jung Letters, Page 303.

“No one provokes me with impunity." The ancients knew how inexorable a god Eros is. ~Cited by Carl Jung in Freud/Jung Letters, Page 19.

Gross and Spielrein are bitter experiences. To none of my patients have I extended so much friendship and from none have I reaped so much sorrow. ~Jung to Freud, Freud/Jung Letters pp. 228-229.

The reason for evil in the world is that people are not able to tell their stories. ~Carl Jung, Freud/Jung Letters Vol. II, Page [needed]

You will be accused of mysticism, but the reputation you won with the Dementia will hold up for quite some time against that. ~Sigmund Freud to Carl Jung Letter May 1911.

Adler's letter is stupid chatter and can safely be ignored. We aren't children here. If Adler ever says anything sensible or worth listening to I shall take note of it, even though I don't think much of him as a person. ~Carl Jung, Freud/Jung Letters, Page 532.

This time the feminine element will have conspicuous representatives from Zurich: Sister Meltzer, Hinkle Eastwick (an American charmer), Frl. Dr. Spielrein (!), then a new discovery of mine, Frl. Antonia Wolff, a remarkable intellect with an excellent feeling for religion and philosophy, and last but not least my wife. ~Carl Jung, Freud/Jung Letters, pp. 438-41.

I should never have joined you in the first place had not heresy run in my blood. ~Carl Jung Letter to Sigmund Freud (March 1912)

It is a risky business for an egg to be cleverer than the hen. Still, what is in the egg must find the courage to creep out. ~Carl Jung, Letter to Sigmund Freud (1911)

One repays a teacher badly if one remains only a pupil. ~Carl Jung, Letter to Sigmund Freud (quoting Zarathustra) (1912)

An ethical fraternity, with its mythical Nothing, not infused by any archaic-infantile driving force, is a pure vacuum and can never evoke in man the slightest trace of that age-old animal power which drives the migrating bird across the sea. . . .~Carl Jung, Freud/Jung Letters, Page 294.

In my case Pilgrim's Progress consisted in my having to climb down a thousand ladders until I could reach out my hand to the little clod of earth that I am. ~Carl Jung, Freud/Jung Letters, Volume 1, Page xix.

Freud is essentially concretistic, like Newton, and I'm chiefly impressed by the relativity of psychological phenomena. ~Carl Jung, Letters Vol. I, Pages 301-302

Carl Jung: I had no idea of the mishap that has befallen your son.

Dear Professor Freud, 31 January 1911

Many thanks for all the news in you~ last letter. - As I am laid low with influenza, this will be only a soulless typed letter."

Stekel's aphorisms are atrocious.

A blessing they were suppressed - The real reason for my writing to you in haste and so disjointedly, and sending the letter by a third hand, is to introduce a friend from my student days at Basel University, a surgeon-.

He is an amiable fellow with a laudable if limited interest in psychoanalysis.

He won't make a nuisance of himself in any way, only wants to take a modest seat in the Vienna Society and learn a thing or two.

The name is Dr. Achilles Muiller.

I had no idea of the mishap that has befallen your son.

In the circumstances it is a miracle that he got off so lightly.

These accidents are terribly dangerous. - My wife and I send heartfelt wishes for speedy recovery.

Best regards and wishes for your own health,

Most sincerely yours,

JUNG ~Carl Jung, Freud/Jung Letters, Vol. 1, Page 389

Carl Jung: The question of the original sexual constitution seems to me particularly difficult.

Dear Professor Freud, Kusnacht Zurich, 14 December 1909

Your letter came yesterday evening and I am replying at once.

Your impressions of Binswanger's paper tally with my own, though I haven't dared to say so out loud.

I too was annoyed with B. for pushing the business end so blatantly to the fore; his obeisances in various directions obviously amount to just that.

Oh well, he has a sanatorium round his neck, so I suppose we must stretch a point.

Besides, there is a colossal and apparently still unresolved father complex rumbling in his depths.

May I expect something from you for the January issue of the Jahrbuch?

Contributions are coming from Maeder, Abraham, Sadger, Pfister, Riklin and me.

So space is already tight.

Pfister or Riklin could be held in reserve if necessary.

So far as I have heard, Ferenczi's paper' is greatly appreciated here.

He wrote me a very nice letter, so understanding and friendly that I probably sent him a very clumsy answer."

Such letters should really be answered with a blank page, but that too would look unfriendly.

I have made some glosses on your Obsessional Neurosis.

The notion that obsessional ideas are, by their very nature, regressive substitutes for action sounds very convincing to me.

The formula for D. pro ideas would be: regressive substitutes for reality.

Both formulae, it seems to me, describe the main tendency very aptly.

With reference to p. 415, the sadistic component of libido, I must remark that I don't like the idea of sadism being constitutional.

I think of it rather as a reactive phenomenon, since for me the constitutional basis of the neuroses is the imbalance between libido and resistance (self-assertion).

If, at the start, the libido displayed too strong an attraction or need for love, hate would soon appear by way of compensation, and would subtract a good deal of the work of gratification from the masochistic libido (which by nature is much more nearly akin Ito masochism than to sadism).

I think this is the basis for the immense self-assertion that appears later on in obsessional neurosis: the patient is always afraid of losing his ego, must take revenge for every act of love, and gives up the sexually destructive obsessional system only with the greatest reluctance.

Obsessional neurosis never gets lost in actions and adventures as in the case of hysteria, where ego-loss is a temporary necessity.

Obviously the self-assertion in obsessional neurosis is far exceeded in D.pr.

P. 411,4 omnipotence of his thoughts.

This expression is certainly very significant in this particular case.

But I have misgivings about attributing any general validity to it.

It seems to me much too specific.

Of course it is idiotic of me to find fault with your clinical terminology, to which you have as much right as the next man.

But, like Herakles of old, you are a human hero and demi-god, wherefore your dicta unfortunately carry with them a sempiternal value.

All the weaker ones who come after you must of necessity adopt your nomenclature, originally intended to fit a specific case.

Thus "omnipotence" will later be included in the symptomatology of obsessional neurosis.

But this seems to me only an expression of self-assertion sadistically coloured by reactive hypercathexis and to be on a par with all the other symptoms of self-overvaluation, which always has such a hurtful effect on everyone in ·the vicinity.

Here, it seems to me, we also have the reason for the obsessional neurotic's boundless belief in the rightness of his conclusions; they are taken as universally valid regardless of all reason and logical probability: he is and must remain right.

From this rightness of his ideas, which brooks no exception, it is only a step to superstition, which in turn is only a special instance of self-hypercathexis, or rather weakness in adaptation (the two always go together).

All superstition springs from this soil; it has been the weak man's weapon of attack and defence from time immemorial.

It is not uncommon for the enfeebled to go in for witchcraft, especially old women who have long since lost their natural witchery.

The question of the original sexual constitution seems to me particularly difficult.

Would it not be simplest, for the time being, to start with sensitivity" as the general foundation of neurosis, and to regard all other abnormal conditions as reactive phenomena?

I have just finished my American lectures and have sent them to Brill Ito translate.

Congratulations on the Italian translation!

With kindest regards,

Yours,

JUNG ~Carl Jung, Freud/Jung, Vol. 1, Pages 272-276

Carl Jung: Most people are only too glad to have a ruler or tyrant over them. Man invented rulers out of sheer laziness.

Dear Professor Freud, 6 November 1911

The first days after my return were crowded with trivia.

Now at last I can breathe again.

I have discussed the Zentralblatt situation with Riklin and issued the necessary orders. (I have the feeling that nothing moves unless one brandishes a whip.)

Most people are only too glad to have a ruler or tyrant over them.

Man invented rulers out of sheer laziness.

My message to the Zentralblatt' will go off at the earliest opportunity.

The last stretch of military service has made all work impossible.

Reports of meetings of the branch societies will appear as heretofore in the Bulletin, hence the reports of the meetings in Vienna should also be directed to the central office.

I am making up the Bulletin together with Riklin and shall send it to Stekel.

Since our space in the Zentralblatt is limited, we must have reports of meetings from the branch societies every month so that the material doesn't pile up too much.

The reports should be drawn up as hitherto.

Aren't you afraid that the publication of longer papers in the Zentralblatt will generate unnecessary competition with the Jahrbuch.

I'd like to see Silberer's papers in the latter.

The Zentralblatt would be serving a more valuable purpose if it presented elementary didactic articles, suitable shall we say for beginners and patients.

I would gladly vote for a subsidy if the Zentralblatt printed monographs of an elementary and didactic nature, It is, after all, intended mainly for medical
men, and Silberer's paper can hardly be called medical.

Anyway I couldn't take Silberer into the Jahrbuch until the January number.

For this reason I am not putting up any serious opposition but merely wanted to express (most respectfully) my opinion that papers of this kind are not quite in the right place in the Zentralblatt.

If his paper has already been lying around a long time its early publication would be desirable.

Rank's "Lohengrin" is excellent."

The next Jahrbuch will include three things of Silberer's," among them the paper Bleuler objected to for some unaccountable reason; I really can't find anything offensive
in it.

Pfister will bring his next installment;" Sadger speaks of mucus eroticism," with ill-concealed moral indignation.

Sachs" is in it too.

Zurich is represented not only by Pfister but by two very scientific items" which should lend a quite special cachet to the Jahrbuch from the standpoint of the official, well-behaved (censored) consciousness.

My second part" is not yet finished; I must in any case postpone it till January because of the bulk of the current Jahrbuch.

Not a word from Specht-clear proof of the seriousness of his intentions.

I am shedding no tears for Hirschfeld.

Otherwise all is well with us.

Kindest regards,

Most sincerely yours,

DR. Jung ~Carl Jung, Freud/Jung Letters, Vol. 1, Pages 454-455

Carl Jung: Stekel's crass "pig-and-truffle tactics" make me sick.

Dear Professor Freud, 19 March 1911

I have three letters to thank you for, and am answering your points in chronological order.

I will gladly take the question of the Zentralblatt in hand.

Only, I would first like to make sure of the American project.

I am having a lively correspondence with [ones' about the organization of the American "branch."!

No further news from New York.

The group cannot be recognized until the list of members has come in together with the "contribution."!

The size of our European membership wouldn't make much of an impression on Bergmann.

I have heard rumours of a group being founded in Munich.

The news about Adler is very interesting.

In Zurich, too, several members have noticed that patients use Adler's writings as a source of resistance, also certain remarks of Bleuler's about "certain" followers of Freud.

Adler's question about repression and culture is a typical examiner's question) calculated only to trap people and not to promote a truth.

Stekel's new book hasn't arrived yet, I had no idea that he had

written one. I am revolving in my mind whether it might not eventually become necessary to be openly critical in our own camp.

Stekel's crass "pig-and-truffle tactics" make me sick.

They are thoroughly misleading; one really shouldn't fly in the face of all good taste.

As I have had no further news from Berlin I take a less optimistic view of the situation, Kraus is indeed Ziehen's deadly enemy-so far so good.

If the news proves favourable I would naturally go there without delay.

From Tiibingen I have heard that Privatdozent Busch! wants to honour me with his presence in Zurich.

He seems to have been infected via Stockmayer.

So far as your summer plans are concerned, I am making bold to take you, most emphatically, at your earlier word that you and your wife will be our guests.

I pray nothing will shake this fact.

To that end I have already postponed my military service.

Only now that I have the galleys can I enjoy your Schreber.

It is not only uproariously funny but brilliantly written as well, If I were an altruist I would now be saying how glad I am that you have taken Schreber under your wing and shown psychiatry what treasures are heaped up there.

But, as it is, I must content myself with the invidious role of wishing I had got in first, though that's not much of a consolation.

It couldn't be helped, I was plagued with other things that were more important to me than psychiatry proper.

I shall probably be led back to psychiatry by a circuitous route.

For more than a year now, amid unspeakable difficulties, I have been analysing a Dem, praec. case, which has yielded very strange fruits; I am trying to make them comprehensible to myself by a parallel investigation of incestuous fantasy in relation to "creative" fantasy.

Once my thoughts have matured I must seek your advice.

I am still brooding on it.

I too have received the Australian invitation.

What will you write?

I really don't know what to do."

The definition of symbol fits if regarded from the purely intellectual standpoint.

But what if a symbol is put in the place of a clear concept in order to repress it?

To take an example: in answer to the question, How was the first man created? an American Indian myth says: from the hilt of a sword and a shuttle,"

Here symbol forrrration seems to be aiming at something quite different from concept formation.

Symbol formation, it seems to me, is the necessary bridge to the rethinking of long familiar concepts from which the libidinal cathexis is partly withdrawn by canalizing it into a series of intellectual parallels (mythological theories).

This is precisely one of the problems I am brooding on now.

As you see, I approach the problem from a rather different angle.

This is one reason why Silberer's view, which I had to reject earlier," does not satisfy me entirely.

I have taken your "pleasure and reality principle" to heart and have had to adopt your terminology for the time being.

"Pleasure and reality principle" is indeed an excellent term with a wide range of application.

My only regret is that I was not in possession of this point of view earlier.

Coming now to the question of the Congress,

Vienna would be too much of a jump from Lugano.

Rather than that I would suggest Nuremberg again, where we were accommodated very nicely last time.

For us Swiss, Vienna really is a far cry, also for the Americans and even for the Berliners.

For me personally Vienna would be very pleasant, since I like Vienna and don't mind the long journey.

But Nuremberg, with its central position, requires roughly the same sacrifices from everybody, so I would like to suggest it to your local group.

Reduced fares on Swiss railways are out of the question, I'd say. (The Gotthard line, for instance, is a private company.)

Would you please inform your group that (exercising my authority) I should like them to put it to the vote at their next meeting whether Nuremberg is accepted or whether they propose some other city.

Please let me know the result of the vote soon.

I shall also get the other local groups to vote on this point.

On April 5th I'm going on a 16-day motoring trip with my wife to the south of France.

I am looking forward to the holiday as I've been working very hard.

I hope all is well with you and I am glad for your health's sake that you don't have too much to do.

Many kind regards,

JUNG ~Carl Jung, Freud/Jung Letters, Vol. 1, Pages 406-408

Carl Jung: Dr. A-- was there too. He still exploits his neurosis a bit.

Dear Professor Freud, Burgholzli-Ziirich, 30 November 1907

Last Tuesday I lectured at the Medical Society for nearly an hour and a half on your researches, to great applause.

More than 100 doctors were present.

No opposition except from two well-known neurologists, who rode the moral hobby-horse.

Yesterday's meeting of our Freudian Society went off very nicely, with much animation.

Prof. Bleuler opened the proceedings with some priceless doggerel aimed at your critics.

Von Monakow- was also present and naturally took the verses as referring to himself, which amused all the old hands enormously.

One sees what a difference mass suggestion makes-there were 25 people present-Monakow shrivelled in his seat.

This time the opposition got into hot water.

May it be a good omen!

Dr. A-- was there too. He still exploits his neurosis a bit.

Dr. Jones of London, an- extremely gifted and active young man, was with me for the last 5 days, chiefly to talk with me about your researches.

Because of his "splendid isolation"? in London he has not yet penetrated very deeply into your problems but is convinced of the theoretical necessity of your views.

He will be a staunch supporter of our cause, for besides his intellectual gifts he is full of enthusiasm.

Dr. Jones, along with my friends in Budapest, has mooted the idea of a Congress of Freudian followers.

It would be held in Innsbruck or Salzburg next spring, and would be so arranged that the participants would not have to be away from home for more than 3 days, which should be possible in Salzburg.

Dr. Jones thinks that at least 2 people would come from England, and there will certainly be several from Switzerland.

My Amsterdam lecture, which I keep forgetting to mention for "complex" reasons, is going to be published in the Monatsschrift fur Psychiatrie und Neurologie.

It still needs a bit of polishing.

This week I'm off to Geneva, the second University town where your ideas will never go to sleep again.

With kindest regards,

Most sincerely yours,

Carl Jung, Freud/Jung Letters, Vol. 1, Pages 101-102

Carl Jung: Can you give me sources for the Oedipus myth and the Dactyls?

Kushnacht Zurich, 15 November 1909

Pater, peccavil-it is indeed a scandal to have kept you waiting 25 days for an answer.

From the last paragraph of your letter it is clear why the intervals need to be shorter: you seem to be very isolated in-Vienna.

Eitingon's company cannot be counted among the highest joys.

His vapid intellectualism has something exasperating about it.

If I appear to be such a sterile and lazy correspondent it is because I am positively wallowing in people and social life here.

I spend much of my time with young Honegger-he is so intelligent and subtle-minded.

Hardly a day goes by without an exchange of ideas.

Thus I fill up my gaps and do not sense the passing of 25 days.

Well, it is scandalous and shall not happen again. I will arrange matters with Forel at once, and for you too.

Bleuler,I hear, has already joined.

He is chewing the cud of countless resistances.

His main grudge against us is that he is incapable of doing any \}IA.

He also seems to think that we back up Stekel in every particular.

(I am very glad that we are in agreement on St. A dictionary of dream symbols!

Good Lord, that's all we needed! Too bad he's usually right.}

Now to better things-mythology.

For me there is no longer any
doubt what the oldest and most natural myths are trying to say.

They speak quite "naturally" of the nuclear complex of neurosis.

A particularly fine example is to be found in Herodotus: at Paprernis, during the festival in honour of the mother of Ares (Typhon), there was a great mock-battle between two opposing crowds armed with wooden clubs.

Many wounded.

This was a repetition of a legendary event: Ares, brought up abroad, returns home to his mother in order to sleep with her."

Her attendants, not recognizing him, refuse him admission.

He goes into the town, fetches help, overpowers the attendants and sleeps with his mother.

These flagellation scenes are repeated in the Isis cult, in the cult of Cybele, where there is also self-castration, of Atargatis (in Hierapolis), and of Hecate: whipping of youths in Sparta.

The dying and resurgent god (Orphic mysteries, Thammuz, Osiris [Dionysus]," Adonis, etc.) is everywhere phallic.

At the Dionysus festival in Egypt the women pulled the phallus up and down on a string: "the dying and resurgent god."

I am painfully aware of my utter dilettantism and continually fear I am dishing you out banalities.

Otherwise I might be able to say more of these things.

It was a great comfort to me to learn that the Greeks themselves had long since ceased to understand their own myths and interpreted the life out of them just as our philologists do.

One of ,the most lamentable seems to me to be Jeremias- (this time lucus a lucendo) , who reduces everything to astronomy when the opposite is staring you in the face.

Now I am laboriously ploughing through the components of the Artemis myth; it has been fearfully distorted by syncretism.

Although the philologists moan about it, Greek syncretism, by creating a hopeless mishmash of theogony and theology, can nevertheless do us a service: it permits reductions and the recognition of similarities, as in dream analysis.

If A is put in place of C, then one may conjecture a connection from C to A.

One of the greatest difficulties is the dating of myths, so important for the genesis of the cults.

It also seems to me extremely difficult to estimate what was folkloristic and widely disseminated and what merely a poetic variant, doubtless very interesting to the philologist but quite unimportant to the ethnologist.

I was most interested in your news about Oedipus.

Of the dactyls I know nothing, but have heard of St. Cosmas" that people kiss his great toe and offer up wax phalli ex voto.

Can you give me sources for the Oedipus myth and the Dactyls?

A counterpart of the nun-like Vestal Virgins would be the self-castrated priests of Cybele.

What is the origin of the New Testament saying: "There be eunuchs which have made themselves eunuchs for the kingdom of heaven's sake"?"

Wasn't self-castration practically unheard of among the Jews?

But in neighbouring Edessa" self-castration of the Atargatis priests was the rule.

In that same place, incidentally, there were 180 ft. high "spires" or minarets in phallic form.

Why is the phallus usually represented as winged? (Joke: "The mere thought lifts it.")

Do you know those early mediaeval lead medallions in Paris, on one side the Christian cross, on the other a penis or vulva?

And the penis-cross of Sant'Agata de'Goti? (Inaccurate illustration in Inman.)

There seem to be indications of early mediaeval phallus worship.

I have recommended Frl. Dr. L. von Karpinska to Dr. Jekels. Frl. Cincburg'" couldn't be traced.

With many kind regards,

Yours,

JUNG ~Carl Jung, Freud/Jung Letters, Vol. 1, Pages 262-264


Dear Professor Freud, 27March 1912

Many thanks for the second edition of Cradiva.

I quite agree with your proposal.

I shall notify the local groups accordingly, i.e., I presume that I have to consult them.

Perhaps we can hold the Congress next spring.

Bleuler has demanded the return of one of the manuscripts already with ,Deuticke,' a very fine Dem. praec. analysis, for fear of public opinion in Zurich.

He could have done this long ago, so it is just another low trick.

Of course it was a paper produced at the Clinic, which I have now wasted a lot of time correcting.

Please excuse the "meagreness" of this "letter."

You will be hearing more from me very soon.

Best regards,

Most sincerely yours,

JUNG ~Carl Jung, Freud/Jung Letters, Vol. 1, Pages 497-498

Carl Jung: Polemics inside our camp are bound to start sooner or later.

Dear Professor Freud, 8 November 1909

You will, no doubt, have arrived at a fair explanation of my long silence.

It's just that one has so much to do, and I expect this is the case on your side as well.

Many thanks for the long letter.

Meanwhile, some more news has cropped up.

But back to the past first, Friedlander: I treated him in the "grand" or haughty "manner and received him in the circle of my 4 foreigners.”

They started talking in English, and it turned out afterwards that he doesn't understand a word.

Otherwise I was polite, keeping my distance.

Pfister also suffered a visitation from him, likewise Foerster.

Forel's Society: Dr. Seif of Munich has been with me, working busily at psychoanalysis.

He is a member of the new Society and has divulged that Frank has spoken out strongly in our favour.

S. pressed me to join along with you.

Exactly what the Society wants to do or is supposed to do S. doesn't know either, but he thinks that in the end everything will be grist to our mill.

Maybe join after all?

Dr. F-- got his deserts from you.

He is, or seems to be, an obsessional neurotic; he was with me for about 3 weeks (also with Dubois,etc. etc.) but proved quite unapproachable because of the most incredible and laughable resistances.

He therefore took to his heels after confessing that he habitually reached his climax only with dirty prostitutes.

He could not forgive me this confession.

Bleuler recently told me that he intended to take up matters of principle with us, i.e., to say how far he is able or wining to follow, and how far not.

Naturally I am dying to know what sort of obliquities will come out.

He is struggling to communicate, and this in itself is not bad.

But ... ? I think we might take the edge off his paper (which to my knowledge doesn't exist yet) if it is published in the Jahrbuch.

In any case it won't be too awful.

Polemics inside our camp are bound to start sooner or later.

To take an example: Stekel's method of presentation will be hard to stomach in the long run, even though he is usually right.

We should, however, emphasize the distinction between real psychoanalysis and Stekel's brand.

I have to fight like mad with my students until I have dinned it into them that psychoanalysis is a scientific method and not just guesswork.

My English speech therapist, for instance, thinks on the strength of Stekel's letters that dream interpretation is something quite simple, a kind
of translation with the aid of the clef de songes.

Now the poor chap is sadly disappointed after seeing how toilsome the work is.

Most people reading Stekel have little appreciation of what we have achieved, not to mention other things.

Also, St. is definitely tending towards stock interpretations, as I can often see here with my students.

Instead of bothering to analyse, they say: "This is . . ."

As if the common-or-garden resistances were not enough, I now have to drive Stekel out of their heads as well.

But 1 don't want to drop him entirely; as usual, his paper for the Jahrbuch contains things that are astonishingly right.

He is valuable because of his findings, but deleterious for the public.

One of the reasons why I didn't write for so long is that I was immersed every evening in the history of symbols, Le., in mythology and archaeology.

I have been reading Herodotus and have made some wonderful finds (e.g., Book 2, cult at Papremis}."

Now I am reading the 4 volumes of old Creuzer," where there is a huge mass of material.

All my delight in archaeology (buried for years) has sprung into life again.

Rich lodes open up for the phylogenetic basis of the theory of neurosis.

Later I want to use some of it for the Jahrbuch.

It's a crying shame that already with Herodotus prudery puts forth its quaint blossoms; on his own admission he covers up a lot of things "for reasons of decency."

Where did the Greeks learn that from so early?

I have discovered a capital book in Knight's Two Essays on the Worship of Priapus." much better than Inman, who is rather unreliable.


If I come to Vienna in the spring, I hope to bring you various ancient novelties.

As a basis for the analysis of the American way of life I am now treating a young American (doctor).

Here again the mother-complex looms large (cf. the Mother-Mary cult?)

In America the mother is decidedly the dominant member of the family.

American culture really is a bottomless abyss; the men have become a flock of sheep and the women play the ravening wolves-within the family circle, of course.

I ask myself whether such conditions have ever existed in the world before.

I really don't think they have.

With kind regards,

Yours,

JUNG ~Carl Jung, Freud/Jung Letters, Vol. 1, Pages 265-268

Carl Jung: Bleuler would rather fall out with us than with those pipsqueaks.

Dear Professor Freud, 24 November 1911

I very much hope that the symptoms of my late ill humour have not had any bad aftereffects.

I was furious because of something that had happened in my working arrangements.

But I won't bother you with that, and will only bring you the good news that Pfister's wife refuses to be analysed.

This will probably start the ball rolling, and, we must hope, save Pfister from the infantilism that is stultifying him.

It will be a hard struggle.

I must congratulate you on the birth of the new journal.

I'm afraid I must declare myself incapable of making an inaugural contribution.

All my time and energy must be devoted to my Part II.

You had best send that accursed paper of Bleuler's to Ferenczi.

Let him react to it without affect, stressing, perhaps, the ethically neutral standpoint of psychoanalysis as contrasted with Bleuler's sorties into
practical hygiene.

Thank you for taking care of Silberer's paper.

I don't know anything about Dr. v. Kohler.

The staunch support of de Montet strikes me as very suspicious, seeing that a short while ago he expressed himself in a most peremptory manner about interpretations and sexuality.

He is a singularly arrogant fellow. (You can get some idea of his tone from the report on the Brussels Congress in the Journal fur Psychologie und Neurologie.)

I am writing this letter piecemeal.

In the meantime there has been the Meeting of Swiss Psychiatrists," at which Riklin, Maeder, and others including myself delivered lectures on psychoanalysis.

Bleuler had previously written Riklin a letter warning him about "invitations," as otherwise there might be "dernonstrations."

The fact that 5 of the 7 lectures were on psychoanalysis has, I have since discovered, incurred the displeasure of Frank and his confreres.

They have kicked up a fuss with Bleuler and he has made himself their mouthpiece; he even suspects that we chose a larger hall in order to invite heaven knows what sort of people.

As you may imagine, this letter exasperated me, particularly as, while I was in St. Callen, Bleuler suddenly descended on Pfister requesting him not to do any more analyses.

Once again Bleuler has allowed himself to be worked up because of his everlasting opposition to me.

He has never attempted to talk with me about it.

All my efforts to win him over have been a total failure.

He just doesn't want to see it my way.

Maeder has now had a friendly private talk with Maier, hoping to persuade him to show his colours.

He often attends our meetings, and we would find it appropriate if he eventually joined our Society, seeing that he takes advantage of it anyway.

After this talk Maier evidently went to work on Bleuler, and now Bleuler has suddenly announced his resignation.

I enclose Maeder's letter.

The blue-marked passage refers to my leaving the last meeting of the Psychiatric Society rather early, because I was tired and thought the proceedings were finished except for two lectures.

Apparently this was not so, for Frank, quite unexpectedly, carne back to his motion (which had been turned down the previous day) that the next meeting be held in the autumn jointly with the International Society for Psychotherapy, which is to meet in Zurich.

I don't know how it happened, but incredibly enough the motion was carried.

I have no intention of speaking at this joint meeting, for the vulgarity of the International Society disgusts me.

President Vogt…All through the meeting Bleuler stuck by Frank and fell over backwards to avoid anything psychoanalytical.

A week ago, before all this happened, I tried to win Bleuler over with every conceivabIe inveiglement and was snubbed again.

There's simply nothing to be done about it.

He just won't budge.

Pfister was taken as a pretext, and he has indeed been careless with certain remarks he made about a doctor here who has his knife into us anyway.

Bleuler would rather fall out with us than with those pipsqueaks.

Shame on him!

With kindest regards,

Most sincerely yours,

JUNG ~Carl Jung, Freud/Jung Letters. Vol 1, Pages 465

Carl Jung: I have had a disgruntled letter from Jones

Dear Professor Freud, 29 September 1910

So you are back safe and sound from the cholera country!

Nevertheless I wish I could have been with you.

I understand very well what you say about your travelling companion.

I find that sort of thing exasperating, and still have an aftertaste of it from our American trip.

Your advice concerning the way to treat our Uncle "Euler"! is opportune and reinforces my natural bent for philanthropy, I shall have the galleys of his manuscript sent to you; I was unable to read it because it was sent direct to Deuticke at the last moment.

Silberer's paper on mythology" is good, except that his "functional category" for the investigation of myths has not blossomed into a thorough-going working hypothesis.

I think you will recommend it for separate publication.

I am working like a horse and am at present immersed in Iranian archaeology.

I think my conjecture that the Miller fantasies" really add up to a redemption mystery can be proved to the hilt.

Only the other day a so-called Dem. praec. patient, whom I have almost set on her" feet again, came out with a really grand, hitherto anxiously
guarded, moon-fantasy which is a redemption mystery composed entirely of liturgical imagery.

A thing of marvellous beauty but very difficult, built on incest with her brother.

In the case of another patient I could spot fragments of a Peter-Antichrist legend; origin obscure.

The interesting thing in the first case is that prior knowledge is entirely lacking; the fantasy originated in early childhood (about the 7th year).

She is now 18-1/2 years old, Jewish.' - As I said, I wallow in wonders.

I was touched and overjoyed to learn how much you appreciate the greatness of Schreber's mind and the liberating of the basic language.

I am still very intrigued by the fate of those unfortunate corps brothers who were miracled up to the skies and are described as "those suspended under Cassiopeia?"

The Manichaeans (Schreber's godfathers?) hit on the idea that a number of demons or "archons" were crucified on, or affixed to, the vault of heaven and were the fathers of human beings.

I use the winged word "Why don't you say it (scil. aloud) ?" every day in analysis, where it proves its efficacy.

The book is a worthy one; it deserves the .place of honour in every psychiatric library if only for the sake of "little Flechsig.""

I have had a disgruntled letter from Jones.

Everybody seems to have it in for him. He says the directors have stopped the Asylum Bulletin because of his psychoanalytic writings.

"Schottlander" has announced an article in the Journal of Abnormal Psychology: "Hysteria and Modern Psychoanalysis."

There you will reap the rewards of your psychoanalytic endeavours with him.

Won't you admit now that my kicking-out technique is therapeutically unsurpassable in such cases?

With many kind regards,

Yours very sincerely,

Jung ~Carl Jung, Freud/Jung Letters, Vol. 1, Pages 355-356

Dr. Jung writes to Dr. Freud about Dr. Pfister

Dear Professor Freud, 10 March 1912

Many thanks for your kindly letter. I haven't the slightest intention of imitating Adler.

But often I am empty-headed, especially 'when all my libido is concentrated on a problem.

I shall gather my wits together very soon.

About Pfister: I forgot to mention that he is in a bad way because his position is in jeopardy.

He has been too incautious.

He is happy enough with his girl, but she is much too young and infantile and still hasn't realized what the situation is; she even wanted to call it off a second time.

Pfister is a child himself and needs an intelligent woman.

First he married a mother, now it's a daughter.

I have told him she is thoroughly infantile; I heard he took it as an encouraging sign.

The whole enterprise is decidedly dangerous.

However, his libido is in it so it might turn out well.

I'm not meddling so long as he doesn't ask me to.

His position in the parish is precarious.

What would he do if he were expelled?

He says he would work with some medical man as a an assistant. With whom?

There is no room for him here with us.

And what would his young wife or fiancee say about that?

Now he is terribly in love and imagines he can't live without the girl.

I hope it will be all right in the end. We are very worried about him.

I hear bad reports of Stegmann.

The dragon he married is an unsavoury spirit and has done him no good at all.

I also heard he has made a virulent attack on psychoanalysis.

I have finished my work except for the addenda.

You will have received the Jahrbucli by now.

The setting of Volume IV has begun. P

lease send Bleuler's manuscript to Deuticke.

This time B. is firing the opening shot.

The new issue will be entirely analytical except for Bleuler.

Have you read Spielrein's new paper (manuscript) I'm afraid I shall have to trim it quite a bit.

This always takes me an awfully long time.

There are two or three Dementia praecox analyses still to come, one of which (Nelken) is extremely important.

I hope I can squeeze it in.

The volume will be a regular monster as I want to include my paper in toto.

On March 31st I shall go on a holiday for 3 weeks.

I'm fagged out. Many kind regards,

Most sincerely yours,

JUNG ~Carl Jung, Freud/Jung Letters, Vol. 1, Pages 493-494

Dr. Jung writes Dr. Freud about Dr. Bleuler

Dear Professor Freud, 29 November 1910

I had a faint suspicion that your present attitude to the divergent tendencies of Stekel and Adler is not exactly a simple one.

There is in any case a noticeable analogy between Adler and Bleuler: the same mania to make the terminology as different as possible and to squeeze the flexible and fruitful psychological approach into the crude schematism of a physiological and biological straitjacket.

Bleuler is another one who fights against shrivelling in your shadow.

Last Sunday, at the Meeting of Swiss Psychiatrists in Bern;' he spoke about ambivalence, i.e., pairs of opposites.



It was dreadfully superficial and schema tic. It looks as though biology were taking all the spirit out of psychology.

Now for Bleuler's letter!

Another masterpiece of tortuosity and "diplomatic vagueness."

It is quite evident that his ratiocinative faculties have gone bankrupt.

He was unable to advance a single reason when talking with me.

There is no doubt at all that it is not you or the statutes or Stekel or anything else that is the cause of his negativism but simply and solely myself, ostensibly because of the Isserlin affair.

But this is merely a pretext.

The real and only reason is my defection from the abstinence crowd.

After I had broken down his cover-resistances through the last dream-analysis, the following dreams came out at the party, accompanied by venomous asides (he told them to me in front of the company, all unsuspecting-as if to prove how little he understands dream-analysisl}: He was the guest of the German Kaiser, who 'looked like a fat grocer, sodden with drink.

In a second dream he was summoned to Berlin in order to analyse the Kaiser.

But he didn't get round to that, for the Kaiser locked him in the cellar.

Bleuler would like more than anything to pick a quarrel with me about the reasons for my defection.

He won't do that for the sake of discretion, instead he refuses to join OUT crowd.

However, it still seems to me that he will come along once the smoke. from the first shots has cleared away.

Regretfully I must share your view that, if you came to Zurich, you would have to grit your teeth and lodge with him.

Bleuler is extremely touchy, loudly proclaiming that it doesn't matter a hang to him.

This would be so miserable for us that I must 'counsel you to get together with Bleuler in Munich.

You can't possibly spend a whole day alone with him; he is thoroughly exhausting because he is quite inhuman.

Furthermore, the situation being so uncertain, you would accomplish just as much or as little in Zurich as in Munich.

I would therefore not stake too much on this card but rest content with a meeting in Munich; after 2-3 hours Bleuler's arguments have long since petered out and he turns nasty, i.e., then comes the barrage of “why’s”.

So it would be best to spend 4-5 hours with him one evening," let us say from 6 or 7 until the departure of the night train for Zurich.

The evening Bleuler departs I shall arrive in Munich and hope very much to spend the next day with you.

There is no need whatever for you to sacrifice any more time.

I now have" sufficient contact with Bleuler to hold him to our cause.

The gaggle of assistants can be lopped off.

Once more I recommend my plan "chaleureusernent."

It should meet all the requirements.

It is a good thing we know this about Friedlander.

The man really is a damned swine.

If ever he comes again I really shall kick him out.

Thank God I guessed what kind of skunk had crawled in under my roof and treated him as I did: I am now more than ever convinced that these hogs have every reason to oppose us.

I shall not consort with them in the future either.

This technique pays off.

With us everything is going ahead nicely.

In Bern the whole interest centred on psychoanalysis in that Society it has made a lasting abode for itself.

Have you read Bleuler's apologia?

With many kind regards,

Most sincerely yours,

JUNG

We hope you will pay us a fleeting visit in the spring. ~Carl Jung, Freud Jung Letters, Vol. 1, Pages 374-375

Sigmund Freud: "Suddenly method entered my Madness"

Dear friend, 16 April 1901

I hope this letter doesn't reach you for a while.

I'm sure you see what I mean.

I simply prefer to write now while the feelings aroused by your last letter are still fresh.

I wrote your wife a card from Venice, where I went on an Easter trip in the vain hope of getting a foretaste of spring and a little rest.

I thought you were already bicycling in northern Italy.

It is strange that on the very same evening when I formally adopted you as eldest son and anointed you-in partibus infideliumt-e-es my successor and crown prince, you should have divested me of my paternal dignity, which divesting seems to have given you as much pleasure as I, on the contrary, derived from the investiture 'of your person.

Now I am afraid of falling back into the father role with you if I tell you how I feel about the poltergeist business.

But I must, because my attitude is not what you might otherwise think.

I don't deny that your stories and your experiment made a deep impression on me.

I decided to continue my observations after you left, and here are the results.

In my first room there is constant creaking where the two heavy Egyptian steles rest on the oaken boards of the bookshelves. T

hat is too easy to explain. In the second, where we heard it, there is seldom any creaking.

At first I was inclined to accept this as proof, if the sound that was so frequent while you were here were not heard again after your departure-but since then I have heard it repeatedly, not, however, in connection with my thoughts and never when I am thinking about you or this particular problem of yours. (And not at the present moment, I add by way of a challenge.)

But this observation was soon discredited by another consideration.

My credulity, or at least my willingness to believe, vanished with the magic of your personal presence; once again, for some inward reasons that I can't put my finger on, it strikes me as quite unlikely that such phenomena should exist; I confront the despiritualized furniture as the poet confronted undeified Nature after the gods of Greece had passed away."

Accordingly, I put my fatherly horned-rimmed spectacles on again and warn my dear son to keep a coo] head, for it is better not to under~ stand something than make such great sacrifices to understanding.

I also shake my wise head over psychosynthesis and think: Yes, that's how the young people are, the only places they really enjoy visiting are those they can visit without us, to which we with our short breath and weary Iegs cannot follow them.

Then, invoking the privilege of my years, I become garrulous and speak of one more thing between heaven and earth that we 'cannot understand.'

Some years ago I discovered within me the conviction that I would die between the ages of 61 and 62, which then struck me as a long time away. (Today it is only eight years off.) T

hen I went to Greece with my brother" and it was really uncanny how often the number 61 or 60 in connection with I or 2 kept cropping up in all sorts of numbered objects, especially those connected with transportation.

This I conscientiously noted.

It depressed me, but I had hopes of breathing easy when we got to the hotel in Athens and were assigned rooms on the first floor.

Here, I was sure, there could be no No. 61.

I was right, but I was given 31 (which with fatalistic licence could be regarded as half of 61 or 62), and this younger, more agile number proved to be an even more persisent persecutor than the first.

From the time of our trip home until very recently, 31, often with a 2 in its vicinity, clung to me faithfully. Since my mind also includes areas that are merely eager for knowledge and not at all superstitious, I have since attempted an analysis of this belief, and here it is.

It made its appearance in 1899.

At that time two events occurred.

First I wrote The Interpretation of Dreams (which appeared postdated 19°0), second, I received a new telephone number, which I still have today: 14362.

It is easy to find a factor common to these two events. In 1899when I wrote The Interpretation of Dreams I was 43 years old.

Thus it was plausible to suppose that the other figures signified the end of my life, hence 61 or 62.

Suddenly method entered into my madness."

The superstitious notion that I would die between the ages of 61 and 62 proves to coincide with the conviction that with The Interpretation of Dreams I had completed my life work, that there was nothing more for me to do and that I might just as well lie down and die.

You will admit that after this substitution it no longer sounds so absurd.

Moreover, the hidden influence of W. Fliess was at work; the superstition erupted in the year of his attack on me.

You will see in this another confirmation of the specifically Jewish nature of my mysticism, Otherwise I incline to explain such obsessions as this with the number 61 by two factors, first heightened, unconsciously motivated attention of the sort that sees Helen in every woman,' and second by the undeniable "compliance of chance," which plays the same part in the formation of delusions as somatic compliance in that of hysterical symptoms, and linguistic compliance in the generation of puns.

Consequently, I shall receive further news of your investigations of the spook complex with the interest one accords to a charming delusion in which one does not oneself participate.

With kind regards to you, your wife and children,

Yours, FREUD ~Sigmund Freud, Freud-Jung Letters, Pages 218-220

Carl Jung: First-rate spiritualistic phenomena occur in this case, though so far only once in my presence.

Dear Professor Freud 2 April 1909

Worry and patients and all the other chores of daily life have beset once again and quite got me down for the first 2 days.

Now I am slowly corning to the surface and beginning to bask in the memory of the days in Vienna.

I hope you received my offprints in good time for Wednesday evening.12 Apri1. 28

After a ro-day interruption i have at last succeeded in continuing TI1Y letter.

From this interlude it appears that the above complaint was premature, because, as usual, worse was to follow.

Today I have put the last bad day behind me.

All during the Easter holidays, when other people were out walking, I've been able to snatch only one day's breath of air.

On the 15th I'll wrench myself free without fail and start my bicycle tour.

Since Vienna all scientific work has been out of the question.

But in my practice 1have accomplished much.

At the moment a madly interesting case is stretching me on the rack.

Some of the symptoms come suspiciously close to the organic borderline (brain turnour/), yet they all hover over a dimly divined psychogenic depth, so that in analyzing them all one's misgivings are forgotten ..

First-rate spiritualistic phenomena occur in this case, though so far only once in my presence.

Altogether it makes a very peculiar impression.

The patient is a man-slaying Sara, Raguel's daughter.

The case I told you about-evil eye, paranoiac impression-was cleared up as follows.

She was abandoned by her last lover, who is altogether pathological (Dem. praec.?); abandoned also by an earlier lover-this one even spent a year in an asylum.

Now the infantile pattern: hardly knew her father and mother, loving instead her brother, 8 years older than she and at 22 a catatonic.

Thus the psychological stereotype holds good.

You said the patient was merely imitating Dem. praec.; now the model has been found.

When I left Vienna I was afflicted with some sentiments d'incompletude because of the last evening I spent with you.

It seemed to me that my spookery struck you as altogether too stupid and perhaps unpleasant because of the Fliess analogy." (Insanity)

Just recently, however, the impression I had of the last-named patient smote me with renewed force.

What I told my wife about it also made the deepest impression on her.

I had the feeling that under it all there must be some quite special complex, a universal one having to do with the prospective tendencies in Ulan.

If there is a "psychanalysis" there must also be a "psychosynthesis" which creates future events according to the same laws.

(I see I am writing rather as if I had a flight of ideas.)

The leap towards psychosynthesis proceeds via the person of my patient, whose unconscious is right now preparing, apparently with nothing to stop it, a new stereotype into which everything from outside, as it were, fits in conformity with the complex.

(Hence the idea of the objective effect of the prospective tendency!)

That last evening with you has, most happily, freed me inwardly from the oppressive sense of your paternal authority.

My unconscious celebrated this impression with a great dream which has preoccupied me for some days and which I have just finished analyzing.

I hope I am now rid of all unnecessary encumbrances.

Your cause must and will prosper, so silly pregnancy fantasies tell me, which luckily you caught in the end.

As soon as I get back from Italy I shall begin some positive work, first of all for the Jahrbuch.

I hope you had a good Easter holiday and feel the better for it.

N. Ossipow, head physician of the psychiatric University Clinic in Moscow, has published a fine report on our affairs.

They seem to be working along our lines.

I have heard that Abraham with SOUle others has issued a "psych. analytical questionnaire."?

Let's hope it's a canard!

With kindest regards,

Yours gratefully, JUNG ~Carl Jung, Freud/Jung Letters, Vol. 1., Pages 215-217

Carl Jung: Or should Ferenczi take up the polemic?"

Dear Professor Freud, 13 November 1911

I am writing a few words in haste.

Enclosed is a paper by Bleuler, inflammatory abstinence stuff which he wants to put in the Jahrbuch in reply 'to Ferenczi."

It also contains some completely false statements quite apart from the usual fanatic bellowings.

Do you feel like adding a few words?

Or should Ferenczi take up the polemic?"

It is not to my taste to have such things in the Jahrbuch, Perhaps you might be able to persuade Bleuler to withdraw certain statements his criticism really does go too far.

Most sincerely yours,

JUNG ~Carl Jung, Freud/Jung Letters, Vol.1, Pages 460

Image: Top: Clark University, September 1909 A.A. Brill, Ernest Jones, Sandor Ferenczi, Sigmund Freud, Stanley •Hall, C. G. Jung Bottom: Eugen Bleuler

Carl Jung: We have been the victims of "blackmail"!

Dear Professor Freud, 23 January 1912

This time the reason for my failure to write is more complicated.

We have been the victims of "blackmail"! by the newspapers and were publicly reviled although no names were named.

I have even consulted a good lawyer with a possible view to bringing a libel action.

But there is little prospect of success because the attack was indirect.

I have therefore confined myself to a public protest by the International Psychoanalytic Association, Zurich branch; it will appear shortly in the
press."

This whole rumpus was precipitated 'by my article in Rascher's Jahrbuch.

The time is most inopportune, as I am overwhelmed with work and grappling with the endless proliferation of mythological fantasies.

In order to master the overwhelming mass of material I have to work unceasingly and am feeling intellectually drained.

As you will see from the enclosed letter, Bjerre does not agree at all with our lopping off his long-winded epi-crisis and publishing it in the next issue.

The gentleman seems to 'be too big for his boots.

I have written Deuticke that he should go ahead and set the end, and that the manuscript is obtainable from you.

Have you any ministering spirit who knows German and would correct the style and punctuation?

I should be very, very grateful.

I would like to avoid difficulties with Bjerre, and Deutioke is willing to print the 3rd part anyway.

This would unburden the next issue, which has already taken on menacing proportions because of my copious-still unfinished-i-opus.

But I am now working on the last chapter (VI).

Bleuler's "Autism" is very misleading and extremely unclear theoretically.

"Shallow" is probably the right word for it.

I'm told Stekel's paper is brief; it can then be tucked away in an inconspicuous place.

Our French professor from Poitiers" has now joined the Zurich group, so we have a professor in our midst again.

Since Bleuler's departure we have been having very pleasant evenings at the Perceptible harmony all round.

Is it true that Adler has offered his services to Specht?

With best regards,

Most sincerely yours,

JUNG

On Jan. 2oth I lectured to 600 teachers.

For an hour and a half I had to thunder out Psychoanalysis like Roland sounding his horn.

This letter is quite vacuous. At the moment I am not giving out any libido, it's all going into my work." ~Carl Jung, Freud/Jung Letters, Vol. 1, Pages 482-483

Carl Jung: So if I offer you the unvarnished truth it is meant for your good, even though it may hurt.

Dear Professor Freud, 3 January 1913

Although you have evidently taken my first secret letter very much to heart or very much amiss, I cannot refrain, while avoiding that topic, from offering you my friendly wishes for the New Year.

It is my hope that the Psychoanalytical movement will continue to advance, its vitality unimpaired and indeed heightened by internal conflicts and crosscurrents.

Without them there is no life.

When everything goes smoothly, petrifaction sets in. "I seek salvation not in rigid forms."!

Don't hesitate to tell me if you want no more of my secret letters.

I too can get along without them.

Needless to say I have no desire to torment you.

But if you 'profess a friendly attitude towards me, I must insist on my right to reciprocate, and shall treat you with the same analytical consideration which you extend to me from time to time.

You surely know that the understanding of psychoanalytical truths is in direct proportion to the progress one has made in oneself.

If one has neurotic symptoms there will be a failure of understanding somewhere.

Where, past events have already shown.

So if I offer you the unvarnished truth it is meant for your good, even though it may hurt.

I think my honourable intentions are perfectly clear, so I need say no more.

The rest is up to you.

From the drift of this letter you will be able to guess what my wishes are for the New Year.

With best regards,

Most sincerely yours,

JUNG ~Carl Jung, Freud/Jung Letters, Vol. 1, Pages 539-540

Carl Jung: Once again I underestimated my father complex.

Dear Professor Freud, 17June 1910

I answered Adler today. His first letter went to Riklin, who filed it.

Unfortunately his letter of 1 June was unanswered because I first had to wait for the founding of the Zurich group in order to give Adler positive news."

As I hold the view that the International Association has been founded since Nuremberg, I cannot imagine why the Viennese group has not been able to consolidate itself. Perhaps I have misunderstood something?

We were of the opinion here that a group already existed in Vienna just as in Berlin and now also in Zurich.

Please forgive me for the delay in answering. The break with Bleuler has not left me unscathed.

Once again I underestimated my father complex.

Besides that I am working like mad. I just keep alive in a breathless rush.

It's high time I got some help.

Unfortunately Honegger is coming only at the end of next week.

Till then I'll have to let the correspondence pile up unanswered.

I have at last succeeded in getting the Juristic-Psychiatric Society, of which I was president;" off my neck. Etc., etc ....

The founding of our group was a painful affair.

We have about 15 members," several of them foreigners.

As yet we haven't got down to debating the statutes because of the difficulties at the Burgholzli, but we have elected Binswanger president and my cousin Dr. Ewald Jung secretary-he is coming along very nicely.

Now the hair in the soup: I proposed holding occasional public meetings and then inviting Burgholzli, etc.

Binswanger declared he would accept the vote for president only if all meetings were held in common with non-members.

I put it to the vote and my proposal fell through.

So now we have a Society with a few regular members and an audience of nonmembers who do nothing but have all the privileges.

I don't like it a bit. But what can I do?

I suggested asking your fatherly advice beforehand but this was turned down.

So we in Zurich limp along making a poor show. You won't be happy about it. Neither shall I.

Leonardo" is wonderful. Pfister tells me he has seen the vulture" in the picture.

I saw one too, but in a different place: the beak precisely in the pubic region.

One would like to say with Kant: play of chance, which equals the subtlest lucubrations of reason.

I have read Leonardo straight through and shall soon come back to it again.

The transition to mythology grows out of this essay from inner necessity, actually it is the first essay of yours with whose inner development I felt perfectly in tune from the start.

I would like to dwell longer on these impressions and brood quietly on the thoughts which want to unroll in long succession.

But the present rush that has already gone on for several weeks leaves me no peace.

Again many thanks for your friendly advice about Honegger.

Your advice has been anticipated by events.

I had already told Honegger that things 'simply couldn't go on as they were.

You can hardly imagine the uproar in my office and the German-French-English caterwaulings my bloodsuckers have set up.

So I beg your forgiveness once more for the delay.

Be patient with me-when Honegger is here I shall be able to breathe more freely and cope with my outer obligations a bit more decently.

I think I have already told you that I received the manuscripts safely, with best thanks.

Many kind regards and again a plea for forgiveness,

Most sincerely,

JUNG ~Carl Jung, Freud/Jung Letters, Vol. 1, Pages 328-331

Carl Jung: Morton Prince is just a mudslinger

Dear Professor Freud, 27Apri11912

It was good of you to have your letter waiting for me on my return.

I spent some very pleasant days in Florence, Pisa, and Genoa and now feel quite rested.

With regard to Bleuler, even if the story of his appointment is true it is unlikely that he will go to Breslau.

This will be a hard dilemma for him, as he had always hoped to get to Germany.

I shall be glad if he stays on, because no successor would be any better, except possibly Dr. Ris in Rheinau.

I myself am out of the running, for I have no intention of giving up my scientific work for the sake of a professorship.

Professorships here mean the end of one scientific development.

You cannot be an official in a madhouse and a scientist at the same time.

I shall make my own way without a professorship.

Morton Prince is just a mudslinger.

Nothing can be done directly, since one cannot start a fight with American newspapers.

All they are interested in is sensationalism, bribery, and corruption.

But in my American lectures I can slip in a parenthetical remark that will make our position clear.

Anyway Prince has already been out-trumped by Dr. Allen Starr," as you will see from the enclosed cutting.

About this there is even less to be done.

Our only available weapon is moral annihilation.

But these wretches annihilate themselves as soon as they open their mouths.

We are therefore left defenceless.

Our ultimate opponents will be the ones who commit the vilest atrocities with Psychoanalysis, as they are even now doing with all the means at their disposal.

It's a poor lookout for Psychoanalysis in the hands of these crooks and fools!

I hope to see Baron Winterstein at my place next Monday.

I would like to keep the article on Roosevelt a few days longer for further study, and then send it back to you.

Now and then I correspond "amicably" with Bleuler on scientific matters.

There seems to be a tacit agreement 'between us not to tread on one another's corns.

Stoning's" assistant in Strassburg, young Dr. Erismann,' wants to
join us.

I have successfully treated his sister (whom you may remember).

Many thanks for your exceedingly interesting article in Imago.

A pity the bulk of my manuscript is already with Deuticke; I could have made a number of improvements.

Like you, I am absorbed in the incest problem and have come to conclusions which show incest primarily as a fantasy problem.

Originally, morality was simply a ceremony of atonement, a substitutive prohibition, so that the ethnic prohibition of incest may not mean biological incest at all, but merely the utilization of infantile incest material for the construction of the first prohibitions. (I don't know whether I am expressing myself clearly!)

If biological incest were meant, then father-daughter incest would have fallen under the prohibition much more readily than that between son-in-law and mother-in-law.

The tremendous role of the mother in mythology has a significance far outweighing the biological incest problem-a significance that amounts to pure fantasy.

Kind regards,

Most sincerely yours,

Jung ~Carl Jung, Freud/Jung Letters, Vol. 1, Pages 501-502

Carl Jung: He could have done this long ago, so it is just another low trick.

Dear Professor Freud, 27March 1912

Many thanks for the second edition of Cradiva.

I quite agree with your proposal.

I shall notify the local groups accordingly, i.e., I presume that I have to consult them.

Perhaps we can hold the Congress next spring.

Bleuler has demanded the return of one of the manuscripts already with, Deuticke,' a very fine Dem. praec. analysis, for fear of public opinion in Zurich.

He could have done this long ago, so it is just another low trick.

Of course it was a paper produced at the Clinic, which I have now wasted a lot of time correcting.

Please excuse the "meagreness" of this "letter."

You will be hearingmore from me very soon.

Best regards,

Most sincerely yours,

JUNG

~Carl Jung, Freud/Jung Letters, Vol. 1, Pages 497-498